Charles Edward Stuart Robb (1779/81 – 1853)

According to his grandson Charles Edward, George’s son Charles Edward Stuart Robb married Margaret Ricketts Monteith at St. Mungo’s, Glasgow in October 1802, when he would have been about 23 years old. Margaret was born in 1781 or 1782, the only daughter of John Monteith and his wife Matilda. Charles’ son William claimed that his grandmother Matilda was ‘the daughter of Viscount Stormont who was engaged as well as my Father’s father in the affair of Prince Charles’ attempt to gain the crown 1745/6.’  However, it has not been possible to verify this. [It was the 6th Viscount Stormont, David Murray, 1690-1748, who was associated with the Jacobite rebellion, entertaining Bonnie Prince Charlie at his home at Scone in 1745. He was married to Anne Stewart, but there is no record of a daughter named Matilda. However, there is clearly some kind of Robb family connection with the aristocratic Murrays, as shown by Rev. William’s association with Alexander Murray, Lord Elibank.]

Charles’ and Margaret’s first child Matilda was born in Aberdeen in 1805. A second child, George, was born in Alloa in Clackmanannshire in 1806 but only lived for 4 months, while Isabella Maria was born in 1808 and lived less than a month, dying in Kilmarnock in Ayrshire. This suggests that the young couple moved around Scotland a fair amount during their first years of married life.

At some point they moved south to Yorkshire, where they continued their wanderings: their next child Charles Edward was born in Whitby in 1810, while George William (1811) and William (1813) were born in Richmond and John (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) in Malton.

Some time between 1820 and the mid 1830s, the family moved south again and by 1841 were living at Charing Cross in London (Charles’ son William was married in London in 1836). In 1841 Charles was about 60 years old and working as a solicitor’s clerk. They were living at 29 Charing Cross, and Charles was in the same occupation, when Margaret died in December 1843 aged 61. She was buried nearby at St. Martin in the Fields. 

Two of Charles’ sons – Charles Edward and George William – predeceased their father, the former dying of fever in 1836 at the age of 25, and the latter (who followed his father’s profession as an attorney’s clerk) of influenza in 1847 at the age of 36. Charles’ daughter Matilda married Frederick King in 1860 (probably at St. George’s, Hanover Square) and died in Mile End Old Town in 1870. His other daughter Elizabeth married Joseph Boden of Derbyshire in 1841. In 1851 they were living at 54 Lawrence Lane in the parish of St. Mary le Bow in the City of London, with Elizabeth East, a house servant. Elizabeth died in 1860 and was buried in Tower Hamlets Cemetery.

The 1851 census has Charles Robb, described as a clerk aged 72 and a widower, living alone at 40 Tenison Street in the parish of St. John’s, Waterloo Road, in Lambeth. We know that Charles died in 1853 and was buried in the churchyard at St. John’s, so this is probably the same person, despite the fact that the census appears to give his birthplace as Glasgow or Glamis.

About Charles’ son John, his brother William wrote in 1880: ‘I believe he is living but have not seen him for 3 or 4 years nor would he ever let me know where to find him. I believe he is in London as I am told he has been seen.’ One source has John marrying Mary Ann Downes in Lambeth in 1844, when he would have been about 28 years old. Interestingly, there is a record of a Charles Edward Stuart Robb dying from meningitis aged 10 months in 1847. His father’s name is given as John Robb, a parliamentary agent, of Lambeth Road, Southwark. The child’s name could simply be a coincidence, but it’s possible that John named his son after his own father. Could it be that Charles Edward Stuart Robb senior spent his final years, following his wife’s death, living not far from his youngest son, or is there some other explanation for this final move before he died?

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One Response to Charles Edward Stuart Robb (1779/81 – 1853)

  1. Glyn Jones says:

    This is from your cousin Barbara’s husband Glyn
    I’d like to congratulate on the hard work you have carried to produce this extensive family history. I have done some research of my family and parts of Barbara’s Brammers and some of the Robb’s. There is little I can add to your work since you have got most of it. One snippet I did find on the internet for Charles Edward Stuart Robb was that he had his own Accountant and Engraver business in Newbiggin, Malton in 1823 (see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Malton/Malton23.html )
    I am suspicious about James Robb’s son James who, in the family bible it was claimed, emigrated to America. I believe this is a cover for something far darker. In 1848 a James Robb aged 22 from Fisherford was hanged for murder at Aberdeen. Details of the forensics can be found on the internet in the 1850 London Medical Journal that has been scanned by Google Books, it does not make pleasant reading. If it is the same James Robb I suppose we have to expect every family to have a skeleton in the cupboard.

    Regards Glyn and Barbara

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