John Schofield Londors (1827 – 1915)

In the previous post, I wrote about my 3 x great grandfather, Barking farm labourer John Londors. In this post, I plan to summarise everything I know about his eldest son, my 2 x great grandfather, John Schofield Londors.

John Londors junior was born in Barking in 1827,the eldest son of John Londors and Mary Ann Schofield. The 1841 census finds him, aged 13, living with his parents at White Hall, Barkingside, and already working as an agricultural labourer. In March 1851, when the next census was taken, John was 23 and still living at home, but about to be married to Sarah Ann Brown, 22, who was staying with the Londors family at the time.

John and Sarah were married on 29 June 1851. The record notes that John, a labourer, was the son of farmer John Londors, while Sarah’s father was horse (house?) keeper James Brown. The witnesses were George Faulkner and Sarah Londors. Presumably the latter was John’s younger sister, who would have been 21 at the time: if so, this is the only record I’ve managed to find for her after 1841.

The biggest mystery about John and Sarah’s wedding is why it took place, not in Barking, where both of them were living three months earlier, but at the church of St. Dunstan and all Saints, Stepney, where the couple claimed to be resident. Certainly, their first child, Sarah Ann, was baptised in the area – at the church of St Mary in Bromley St Leonard, on 5 September 1852, having been born on 18 July that year. Perhaps John and Sarah were living with, or close to, John’s sister Elizabeth, who got married in Bow in the previous year? However, in later census records, John and Sarah claimed that their first daughter, like their other children, had been born in Barking.

St. Dunstan's Stepney

John and Sarah Londors would have six more children after Sarah Ann: Alma (born in 1855), Alice Mary Ann (1859), Edith (1861), George (my great grandfather, 1863), Albert (1866) and Emma (1870).

At the time of the 1861 census, agricultural labourer ‘John Londors jnr’, 33, his wife Sarah, 32, and their children Sarah, 8, Alma, 6, and Alice, 1, together with Great Easter-born lodger William Thoroughgood, 56, a widower and agricultural labourer, and his son George, 22, were living at  Hattons Corner, Barking, not far from John’s parents.

By 1871, when John, 43, and Sarah, 42, were living in St. Swithin’s Road, Barking (which was probably identical with Hattons Corner), Alice was 11, and they had four additional children: Edith, 9, George, 7, Albert, 4, and Naomi or Nancy Emma, 4 months. William Thoroughgood, now 68, is still their lodger.  I haven’t been able to find Sarah Ann, who would have been 18, or Alma, 16, in the 1871 census. However, Sarah, then aged 21, would marry whitesmith William Orgar, 29, son of tobacco pipe maker John Orgar, at St Botolph’s Bishopsgate, on Christmas day 1873.

The 1881 census finds John and Sarah Londors, now 52 and 51 respectively, living at ‘Shattman’s Farm, Beehive Road, cottage in yard’, with sons George, 17, and Albert, 14, both agricultural labourers like their father; daughter Nancy Emma, 10; and grandson William John Orgar, 6. The latter’s parents were living at 8 Upper Dorset Street, Marylebone at the time, with William’s younger brother Ernest, and also with Sarah Londors’ sister Edith. I can still find no trace of Alma, but her sister Alice had married another whitesmith, Thomas William Beale, son of stud groom George Beale, in May of the previous year, at the parish of church of St. Marylebone. William gave his address as 12 Wyndham Street, while it would appear that Alice was living with her sister Sarah in Upper Dorset Street. Edith Londors would marry in 1884, when she was 23, but I’ve yet to discover who her husband was.

Whitesmiths at work

In 1891, John, 62, and Sarah, 61, were at St Swithin’s Cottages, with sons George, 26, and Albert, 24, as well as another Orgar grandson, Berty (Albert Victor)  aged 9.

By 1901, John, 73 and Sarah, 72 had moved to St Mary’s Hospital in Ilford, a charitable institution seemingly under the oversight of the Bishop of Barking. In the meantime, Alma had married butcher James John Clyne in Hoxton in 1891, Naomi Emma had married (though I don’t yet know to whom) in Romford in 1994, and in 1896 George had married Sarah Shaw in Forest Gate. Albert, still single, was living with the latter at 9 Roding Cottages, Ilford.

Sarah, wife of John Schofield Londors, appears to have died in 1901. I haven’t found John in the 1911 census, but it seems likely he remained in the Hospital Chapel, since he died there in 1915, at the age of 88.

The Hospital Chapel of St. Mary, Ilford

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One Response to John Schofield Londors (1827 – 1915)

  1. Niki Salfranc says:

    Was wondering where you obtained the image of the whitesemiths please? You do have some cracking pictures!!
    All the best
    Niki

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