About

My name is Martin Robb and I’m a very amateur genealogist and historian, based in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England.

This blog is a record of my research into the many and various branches of my family tree. My aim, to adapt the words of E. P. Thompson, is to rescue from obscurity the servants, shoemakers, laundresses and law clerks whose interwoven lives created the conditions for my own.

My father is Peter Ernest Robb (b. 1933), son of Arthur Ernest Robb (1897 – 1979) and Mary Emily Elizabeth Webb (1898 – 1965). My mother is Joyce Alma Londors (b. 1933), daughter of George John Londors (1896 – 1961) and Minnie Louisa Roe (1902 – 1987). My father’s family tree also includes the surnames French, Bowman, Larke, Seager and Monteith, while my mother’s includes Blanch, Holdsworth, Gibson, Greene, Byne, Forrest, Manser and Fowle, among many others.

My father’s family came to London from Aberdeenshire via Glasgow and Yorkshire in the early nineteenth century, and then moved slowly eastwards until they reached East Ham. My mother’s family also ended up in East Ham, but they have roots in Stepney and the City of London going back at least to the early seventeenth century, as well as in Bedfordshire, Gloucestershire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire and Sussex.

I’ve written more extensively about my mother’s Sussex ancestors here, about their descendants in seventeenth- and eighteenth-century London here, and about my nineteenth-century East End forbears here. You can read about a Glasgow offshoot of my father’s family here, and about a possible double bigamy among their nineteenth-century London descendants here. My family history research led me to an exploration of Catholic recusants here, and of nonconformist families here.  I’ve also researched the history of the part of Essex where I spent my childhood at this website.

Family history is essentially a collaborative endeavour, and comments are always welcome, especially from relatives, however distant, and those researching the same families, periods and places. Contributions will always be acknowledged.

You can email me at:

mprobb@btinternet.com

The header image is part of a 1615 map of Stepney (via spitalfieldslife.com)

63 thoughts on “About”

  1. I see from a Google Alert that you mentioned William Axtell, husband of Hannah Sarah Parker in your Joseph Priestley Roe in 1871 blog entry. If you are interested you can have a look at my website where I have information on their descendents, and William’s family.

    See http://www.axtell-surname.org.uk/fam2250.html

    Jon Axtell – familytree@jonaxtell.me.uk

  2. Richard Seager said:

    Hi Martin, I’m from New Zealand and a descendent of Edward William Seager. I’m happy to exchange information with you.

    • Michael Batchelor said:

      Hello Richard, my great-grandfather was EWS. His daughter Ethel Wilson married Harry Stacpoole Batchelor. One of their sons was Norman Seager Stacpoole Batchelor who married Thelma Spence Thompson in 1928 and I was born 30 August 1935 in Christchurch.
      Today,10 April 2010 there has been a small Seager family re-union organised by Brian Seager and his wife May. It took place at Sharon Seager’s home in Te Puke, near Tauranga where I live.
      One of my sons is Richard and my other son’s eldest is Owen – a mildly interesting coincidence.
      I am a semi- retired lawyer – 4 days a week.
      I gather that you are Edward’s son who was there today.

  3. alan affleck said:

    Hi martin
    I came across your site by accident and found the name of samuel affleck mason of dumfries.
    I believe this to be my ancestor who came to london in 1825.
    He married a sarah taylor, I am not sure of the connection to your family.

  4. Julie Campbell said:

    Hello Martin,
    We are following your blog here is Australia, would you like details of Richard Roe ( son of Eliza and Daniel ) to add to your pages.

  5. Michael John Robb said:

    Hi Martin,
    In your blog on the Robb Family Bible you wonder whether the descendants of ‘Joseph John (born 1880) who married Alice and had a son Arthur’ might have the family bible.
    Joseph John Robb (7/2/1880 – 29/3/1950) was my Grandfather. He married Mary Alice Tyler on 23/9/1911. Their only child was Arthur Charles Robb (3/1/1914 – 1/12/1989), my father, who married Constance Eleanor Arthy on 1/7/1939. I am their eldest child born 13/2/1949.
    My father did a lot of investigation into his family tree, and, like you, had a copy of the note you reproduce in your blog, but we do not have the Family Bible itself.
    I would be happy to discuss in detail any aspects of our family history, shared or otherwise.

  6. Toban Wild said:

    Hi Martin, I found you’re blog while Googling ‘John Rodbard’ – a gentleman I had claimed for my own family as husband of a Maria Blanch in my family tree. I also had James Blanch, born 1755 in Holborn, as the father of my Maria and her siblings (one of whom was my 4xgreat-grandmother). The information you posted on your blog is remarkably different to the particulars of my family, so I am positive that they are not the same Blanchs, however, we have both seemed to hold James Blanch (1755) as our respective ancestor. I would be very happy to communicate with you to see whether we can rectify this situation and establish a connection (if there is one) or at least to confirm where James belongs (I’m willing to concede that I was mistaken in accepting Mr. Rodbard as the husband of my Maria, given the census and parish register evidence you’ve put forward – even though the signatures of ‘Maria Blanch’ on her marriage to John and ‘Marian Rodbard’ witnessing David’s marriage are exceptionally dissimilar). Incidentally, I possess a copy of the Will of John Rodbard from 1829 and on of William Blanch (father of 1755 James) from 1763 (unfortunately, this does not give much family details, only naming his wife and two children, as neither of them were old enough to be married, it cannot be confirmed where James belongs by William’s grandchildren). I think I’ve rambled for quite long enough, and look forward to our future communications.
    Cheers

  7. I see you have a Caleb Roe, I have a Caleb Roe b. NY City ca. 1840 son of Edward Roe b. 1778-80 in England. Any relation? Maria

  8. Hi there Martin

    I came cross your website when I “Google”d St Mary’s Haggerston, and have taken the liberty of poaching the image since it is the best on the Internet that I have found. One of my relatives was baptised at St Mary’s in 1830. I am sure you will forgive me since although we are not related, our relatives were doubtless neighbours (am still trawling to see if there is not in fact a link). Thank you very much!

    Good website, by the way. Nice images, direct & straighforward, no irritating bells and whistles.

    All the best and keep up the good work!
    Regards
    Niki

  9. I commented at two of your posts relating to Rev. James GAMMACK. My husband’s brother died recently and I am in the process of putting together a GAMMACK Family book for his two surviving sons and their sons.

    May I have your permission to include these two posts – stories, if you will – in my book, of course crediting you as the source?

    It is interesting: A FRENCH married into the GAMMACK family, and I have FRENCH down my line. I will have to check your lines and see if there are any connections.

    Nice blog! Very interesting!! And the photos are beautiful!

    Are you still in Scotland?

    • betsy gammack cappelletti said:

      Hello, My grand father was Rev John Wilson Gammack(born March 1869, Drumlithe Scotland) rector of St Pauls Episcopal Church Glen Cove Long Island.
      My great Grandfather was Rev James Gammack
      Rev Arthur Gammack (Yale Alummi) was the brother of Rev John Wilson Gammack
      ApparentlyJames Gammack of Aberchirder, Baniff 1846 was a very famous clock maker.
      Is any of this helpful? I would love to hear from you via my email address
      Betsy Gammack Cappelletti

      • Sandy Robert Gammack Pratt said:

        Hello,
        I am related to the Gammacks you refer to. Need to check out my genealogy papers to remember relationships,
        Sandy Robert Gammack Pratt
        Email: srgpratt@hotmail.com

      • Hi Sandy
        I haven’t looked at the Gammacks, or indeed any of my Aberdeenshire ancestors, for a while. Hope you find my information on them useful. I’d be interested to know if you’ve got any additional information about them and their connection with my Robb ancestors. Best wishes. Martin

    • Sandy Pratt (g is for Gammack) said:

      I have a number of Gammack ancestors many of whom are mentioned in postings. Happy to share

  10. Patricia( Pat ) Mai Tennent (nee Webb) said:

    I am the granddaughter of Alfred Webb and Ellen Hinson. Alfred born 18 Mar 1884 was a policeman in London. He was youngest brother of George, Virtue, Alice etc.
    My family migrated to Australia in 1949 and live in Toowoomba, Queensland.
    Alfred and Ellen had two sons, George and Frank. I would be very happy to give you further information.

    • Hello Pat and thank you for the comment. It’s good to hear from you. I’ve only just entered the information about Alfred and Ellen on my family tree, so you’re very quick off the mark! I’d certainly be grateful for any more information about Alfred, and also if you know anything about his parents and family in London. I’m almost certain know that my great grandfather George Webb was Alfred’s brother, but I’m trying to find out more about their mother and father – and keeping coming up against a brick wall.
      Best wishes
      Martin

  11. Patricia( Pat ) Mai Tennent (nee Webb) said:

    Hi Martin. I have Alfred’s birth certificate and his parents were George Webb and Elizabeth Knight. You had the right info re the 1881 and 1891 census but the wrong Elizabeth. I also have a copy of the marriage between George and Elizabeth and George’s father was John Webb and Elizabeth’s William Knight. George and Elizabeth were married in Stepney in Oct 1865. My father Frank Harold Webb married May Henrietta Leonard on 26th Dec 1935 and they had two boys and two girls. One boy died aged 6 weeks but the rest of us are still alive and kicking. Dad’s brother George had three sons, one died a few years ago but the other two are still living in England. I am very happy to get more news about the more recent family. Cheers Pat

  12. Morgan Webb said:

    Hello. Are you connected to these Holdsworth/Webb connections
    Sidney Webb (b.? d.21.5.47) m Lydia Harriet Holdsworth (b.? d. 7.12.34)
    Seem common enough names but like your family seemed to marry each other!
    They were my great grand parents.
    My grand father was Sidney William Webb (b.1901 d.1974)
    All the best.

  13. Betsy, I would love to exchange information with you but have no email for you.

  14. Just writing to say that you made a small typo, it’s not the 1939 photograph of Charing Cross but 1839 🙂
    I like your blog, I have a similar kind of blog for my family history research, but it’s in Dutch.

  15. Greg Holdsworth said:

    My grandfather is Alex Beresford Speedy Holdsworth (b 11 Nov 1915) who i think is also descended from Joseph Godfrey Holdsworth – although i can not make the link via Sir Charles Holdsworth or other. Grew up near Castle Point, Masterton, NZ.

    • Alex Speedy holdsworth’s father was Sidney Holdsworth and mother was fanny Groves m 1914, I think. If I’m right his uncle was Sir Charles Holdsworth, and his grandparents are Joseph Godfrey Holdsworth and Elizabeth Mary (née Smith) Holdsworth

  16. Elizabeth Cherry said:

    Hello Martin,
    I chanced upon your blog and see you have an interest in the Bonners. I am a direct Bonner descendant from Michael and Frances via their other son Michael b 1768 in Stepney. Michael jnr married Eleanor Trantum Sayle and had a large family. They moved across the water to Rotherhithe . Michael jnr was a wealthy mariner and died in 1810. I believe he is also mentioned in the will of Michael snr. but have to delve among papers hiding at the back of various cupboards to check that out.
    I have taken the liberty of e mailing the link to your blog to other Bonner relations who are also into family history. I suspect they will be in touch, one is far more knowledgeable than I.

    Its good to touch base with a fellow researcher especially one from East Ham, I am from that area myself and of similar age! I also had a Saturday job in East Ham library before teaching at Lathom Rd School! We must have passed each other in the street back in the day!
    Good luck with it all
    Libby

  17. Jill Crawford said:

    Hi Martin,
    I am one of the “other Bonner relations” referred to by Libby (above).
    I am particularly interested in Bonner connections with the East India Company and am happy to exchange information with you although I think you probably have most of the data I have.
    Your “Past Lives” is fascinating and so beautifully illustrated – I’ve spent most of this morning reading it! Congratulations and may you discover much more about your families.
    Best wishes,
    Jill Crawford

  18. Sue Terry said:

    You mention some of your ancestors lived at 9 Roding Cottages, Ilford. Two generations of my ancestors lived at 1 Roding Cottages. My great grandfather also worked at the cemetery as a gardener. I’ve looked on Google Maps – the site of Roding Cottages is now a car park. I wonder if you have any old photos of Roding Cottages? They were at quite an unusual location by a river and a railway line. Please email me if you have any photos of the cottages.

    • I too would like to find Roding Cottages, but for an entirely different reason. I am trying to find what is listed as the “Osler Beds, Roding Cottages”. Apparently there are two world war two unexploded bombs lying there. modern day maps don’t show Roding cottages or the Osler Beds. I think the area is now called Roding Court on Mill Road, can any one help?

  19. Jan Addison said:

    Hi Martin,

    I’m descended from William Henry Blanch.

    I don’t know if you’ve heard from Robin Blanch lately but he and I have information we believe pertains to James Blanch (son of James Blanch and Jane Barlow). Has he mentioned this connection with Australia to you?

    Regards,

    Jan Addison.

    • Hi Jan

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, I was in touch with Robin about this last year. It does look as though it’s the same James Blanch, doesn’t it? Do you have any further information / evidence to support this story?

      Robin and I are still trying to find out where James Blanch senior (the one who married Jane Barlow, and later Sophia) came from – his origins seem very elusive!

      Best wishes
      Martin

  20. Jan Addison said:

    Hello Martin,

    I’m not sure what Robin has passed on to you. I have a copy of William Barlow’s will which states he was a patternmaker as was his son-in-law James Blanch snr. James and his wife Ann lived in Compton Street, Soho in a house which had been left to her by her father William.

    If you are interested contact me at janandgeoff@westnet.com.au.

    Best regards,
    Jan

  21. Ben Stables said:

    Hello, I am currently researching the history of Shelf and I have some Mortimers that lived in Stanage near to Giles Hill earlier than your John Mortimer. Could you please email me at benstables@hotmail.co.uk so we can compare information? Thanks, Ben Stables

  22. Kim Caicco said:

    Hello Martin,
    I too have connections to the surname Webb. I have very little information at the moment but continue to search in hopes of finding more connections. The Webbs that I am searching are Frederick Alexander Webb b. 1862 Chelmsford, Essex who married Julia Moore b about 1865 Bethnal Green (daughter of Jane Moore). They married at St Thomas, Bethnal Green Feb 3, 1884. They had 8 children… Julia B 1884, Lilian 13, Mar 1886, Frederick 1888, Florence Alice 17 Sept 1889, Jessie 10 Aug 1892, Nellie 1894, Charles 1897 and Beatrice Gertrude 2 May 1899. All were born in Bethnal Green.
    I have been fortunate enough to have found two new 2nd cousins who are the granddaughters of Lilian and Jessie. My Grandmother was Beatrice. I will be meeting for the very first time one of my new cousins when she visits Canada from the UK!! I am so very excited.
    From the marriage certificate of Frederick and Julia, I know that his father was Joseph and his occupation was carman. I have been unable to find his Mother”s name.
    Census records for Frederick and Julia tell me that they resided at 29 White St, Bethnal Green (1891) and 151 Vallance Rd, Bethnal Green (1901). Frederick was a blacksmith (farrier) and Juia was a laundress.
    I wonder if you or any of your other readers might be related?
    You may email at kim.caicco@rogers.com
    Regards,
    Kim

    • Hi Kim. Thanks for the comment. I don’t know whether your Webbs are related to my own ancestors – though, as you may have seen, it’s possible that a Bethnal Green carman named Joseph Webb was an ancestor of mine. I’ll certainly follow this up, and let you know if I come across any connections.
      Best wishes
      Martin

  23. Kim Caicco said:

    Hi Martin, Thank you for replying to my posting. Your website is so interesting. I appreciate you taking the time to follow up for me. Looking forward to what you might discover.
    Cheers,
    Kim

  24. Hey Martin,
    Found some very useful info about Whittingham Wood (bet no-one’s ever said that before…) on your website – so thanks for the solid research. In particular, I was wondering where you sourced the Younger Wood’s will from? – Incidentally, along with Whittingham, Mascall and Owen were on the Kent Commission for ejecting scandalous ministers in the 50s.
    Thanks, Joel

    • Hi Joel
      Glad you found the information useful – it’s a fascinating period in history and these people were obviously at the heart of the religious and political disputes of their day. I found the younger Whittingham’s will at the National Archives – I think it might have been catalogued under the wrong name, and I seem to remember sending them a note about this. I’ll send a copy to your email address. In return, have you got a source for your info about the Kent Commission?
      Best wishes
      Martin

      • Hey
        Sorry for the late reply! Thanks for that – they seem to have updated their records now. Members of the ejector commission in Kent were listed in the legislation which can be found here:
        http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56576
        Definitely was an interesting period in local history, it seems as if this aspect of Kentish society was quite factional at this point.
        Thanks again,
        Joel

  25. Rosemary O'Neil said:

    Dear Mr Robb,

    Re your post of 17 February 2011, you show the wrong picture of Glasgow University. Given their dates, your ancestors worked at the old uni when it was situated on High Street (near the junction with what is now Duke Street and now called Collegelands). The new university shown in the picture you displayed was build on Gilmorehill in the west end in the second half of the 19th century when the environment surrounding the old university in the centre of the old city became too unpleasant due to the effects of the industrial revolution and the consequent great increase in population, which was exacerbated by famine in both Ireland and the Highlands. You will find pictures of the old university in High Street online.

    Hope this is helpful.

    Yours sincerely,
    Rosemary O’Neil

    • Thank you for drawing this to my attention, Rosemary. I shall endeavour to find a more accurate image forthwith.
      Martin.

  26. Hi – I am researching the HMS Gloucester built at Limehouse in 1654 and would like to know please where you obtained the early map of London that you have on your site
    Guy

  27. Hi Martin, In your search for James Blanch records, did you ever run into another James Blanch married to Nancy Ann Browne (1753-1827). This James Blanch was a hosier. Blanch-Browne family had similar children names: Nancy (1777), James (1778), Henry (1780), Catherine (1781), Maria (1783), William Henry (1785), Frances Swaile (1787), John (1789), Charles (1792), and Hannah (1794). The first six kids were christened at Saint Martin in the Fields, Westminister, Frances, John, and Charles christened at St. James Westminister, and Hannah christened at St. Dunstan in the East. I am a direct descendant via Catherine (1781) and Henry Hanson. Frances Swaile Blanch married Thomas Fitzgerald and Hanna Blanch married William Thomas Woodlam.

    Hopefully, you might have something on my James Blanch in your research notes.

    Robert van Haastert
    Eagle River, Alaska

    • Hi Robert
      Thank you for your comment and query. I have, in fact, come across the ‘other’ James Blanch – in fact, a number of other men with the same name – in my search for my own ancestor. As you note, James and Nancy Blanch were living in the same part of London as ‘my’ James – but I have to admit, I have no idea whether they were related. I actually wrote about them in this post on the blog some time ago – I hope you find it helpful:

      The Blanch surname in the Westminster parish records


      Best wishes
      Martin

  28. HI Martin, I just tried to email you in regards to Simeon Warner Millard but it does not seem to like the email address listed above

  29. Paul Manser said:

    Hi Martin. I may have information about the Manser family that I traced as far back as Rye to 1720. I will email you shortly. Possibly the link to the manser family from Wadhurst?

  30. Pete Carney said:

    Hi Martin, great website. I’m a descendant of Joseph Holdsworth (brother of Keziah) who married Elizabeth Cuzens and son of John Holdsworth and Eliza Jane Webb. Much useful information here and obviously a lot of research has gone into this.. Give me a yell if want the Australian side, in brief, Joseph and Elizabeth migrated to Geelong Vic in 1854 with their daughter Emily.

    • Hi Pete
      Thanks for making contact. If you know anything about Joseph’s origins in Oxford, or have any old family photos, that would be really interesting. Best wishes, Martin.

  31. Katherine Thomson (nee Galloway) said:

    Hi Martin

    I am a descendant of Thomas Adolphus Webb (1831 – 1877) and found your blog while researching Thomas’ line. I am the great-niece of Lilian May Barrett and George John Witchalls (son of Emma Jane Webb, daughter of Thomas).

    Your records are fascinating and are adding some depth and perspective to the lives behind the names that I have sourced to date. Thank you for documenting it all.

    • Thank you for getting in touch, Katherine. I haven’t looked at my Webb line for ages, but I seem to remember it was proving quite difficult to trace! Have you taken a DNA test by the way – so we can see if we really are related? Best wishes, Martin.

  32. Peter Leonard said:

    Martin,
    I don’t think we have any family cross-overs, but just wanted to say that your site is quite inspiring. I am currently developing the story of my 18th C London Ancestors and many of the occupations and locations that you have are similar to my ancestors.
    Regards to you
    Peter Leonard

  33. Wendy Christie said:

    Hi Martin. Thank you for posting all this. I’ve recently identified John Holdsworth as probably my husband’s 4x great grandfather.

    His 2xGGF was Thomas Morley, an organist who was born in Oxford in 1845 and died in Saint John, New Brunswick in 1891. He was the son of Thomas Morley, bookbinder in Oxford, and Sarah Parker Holdsworth.

    His 3x great grandparents, Thomas Morley and Sarah Parker Holdsworth, were married at St Clement’s Parish, Oxford on 06 May 1832 following publication of Banns. (Ancestry has her indexed as Sarah Parker)

    Based on baptismal records, Sarah Parker Holdsworth seems to have been the youngest of at least six children born to John & Mary Holdsworth. The first three (Eliza in 1798, William in 1800, and Keziah in 1804) were baptized at Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire. Mary and Joseph were baptised at St Clement’s, Oxford in Nov 1806 and Mar 1809 respectively, and Sarah was baptised at St Ebbe’s Parish on 22 Dec 1810

    Incidentally, St Ebbe’s parish also has a burial record for a William Holdsworth, 9 years old, for 09 Nov 1809 and another for a Mary Holdsworth, 35 years old, for 30 Dec 1810.

    I’ve also found a record indicating that John Holdsworth, bachelor, and Mary Webb, spinster, were married at Chipping Norton on 22 Sep 1797.

    On the other hand, I think you mentioned that Eliza Jane Webb was married to John Holdsworth; I should have made notes before I started writing.

    Also, I have no idea of the source of Sarah’s middle name; at least not yet. This is a line I’ve only recently tackled but I did track Eliza and Keziah to London.

    Thanks again and if you have any questions or comments, I would love to hear from you. Wendy

    • Dear Wendy
      Thank you for your message. This is absolutely fascinating – and adds considerably to our knowledge of the Holdsworth family. We knew that one of John Holdsworth’s children had stayed behind in Oxford, and married a Mr Morley, when the rest of the family moved back to London…but that’s all we knew…and we thought her name was Ann, not Sarah. The Parker middle name is intriguing. The London Holdsworths intermarried with the Parkers in different generations, but this information suggests an earlier connection between the two families. Keziah Holdsworth was my direct ancestor. Have you seen my posts about the Holdsworths on this blog, and on my ‘East End Lives’ site? Here are a couple of links to be going on with:

      The Holdsworths come to London

      The two marriages of Sarah Holdsworth

      John Holdsworth, carpenter

      I’m going to be away now for a few days, but when I get back I shall definitely be writing about the Holdsworth and the Oxford connection on this blog – and I’ll acknowledge you as the source of the new information. Thank you again.

      Best wishes
      Martin

      • Wendy Christie said:

        You’re most welcome and thank you for the links. When I sent the first message, I hadn’t tried the search function and so hadn’t seen your other posts. However, now that I’ve read about the two Eliza Holdsworth cousins, I have to go back and check that I didn’t merge them. Once again, thanks.
        Wendy

  34. Jeff Green said:

    Hi Martin

    I can trace my ancestry back to a Thomas Marsom (c.1743-1815), whose manuscript books of religious poetry my cousins still have. Then there is the Thomas Marsom (d. 1726) who was in prison with John Bunyan in the 1660’s or ’70’s, and who founded the Baptist church in Luton in 1694.

    However I have been unable to definitely link these two Thomas Marsoms; sources I have found seem to be assuming a link exists because of their religious affiliations, but the intervening generations are quite obscure.

    I am wondering what information you may have, I where I might go, to fill in this gap?

    Thanks,

    Jeff

  35. Jennifer Greet said:

    Martin, I found your blog whilst looking for a John James Gibson, father of Mary Alice Gibson, born in Madras 15 December 1848. The baptismal records give her parents as John James and Mary Anne Gibson. I see from the 1861 census that Mary Anne Gibson with daughter Mary Alice (aged 12) were living in Somerset – I am unable this morning to view the actual record, but there is no husband mentioned, so possibly John James was dead by this date, or had remained with the Army in India..
    However, the reason I was interested in Mary Alice Gibson is that she is mentioned in the 1871 census and onwards as being a “visitor” in the home of my 3xgreat aunt Clara Sherriff Eales. Clara was born in Jamaica about 1839, and married there but was widowed very soon after her marriage. She had a house in London which in each census seems to have been housing various nieces and nephews, but also Mary Alice Gibson, born in Madras. Mary Gibson was still with Aunt Clara in the 1911 census.She appears to have had “independent means”, and I assume that she and Aunt Clara were friends and companions . Clara died in 1928 and is buried in Hove. I have been unable to find what happened to Mary Alice.
    You say in your blog that you have been unable to find any family of John James Gibson – i offer you Mary Alice as a later connection.
    Kind regards,
    Jennifer Greet

    • Hi Jennifer – Thank you for this new information. It’s helped me to fill in some of the gaps in the history of the Gibson family. I’ve now discovered that John James Gibson married Mary Ann Blundell in Madras in 1845 and that, besides Mary Alice, they also had a daughter named Helen and a son named Charles – they were together in Somerset in 1861, after John James’ death. I think you meant that Mary Alice was a visitor with your ancestor Clara Eales in 1881 not 1871? (as well as 1911 of course). I wonder what was the connection between them? I’d also be interested to hear about any Jamaican research you’ve done, as I’m trying to trace Jamaican connections on the other side of my family. Best wishes, Martin.

  36. Descendant of Joseph James Blanch here, I’m finding your blog incredibly helpful in furthering my own research! Thanks for all your hard work

  37. Debbie Fenn said:

    I was so interested to find your blog! I’ve been researching my genealogy and I’ve recently discovered Crown Court in relation to a great/great great grandfather. I was trying to find out more about this little court, and the information you’ve provided regarding this place (now gone) is really interesting. I did think I might find a Fenn amongst the census names you mentioned for the earlier part of the 1800s, but perhaps the Fenns weren’t there at that particular time! Like your relatives, mine appear to have headed east. I knew that my more immediate ancestors, including my dad, were Shoreditch/Hoxton people – one of the poorest areas – but they appear to have previously come from Grays Inn/Holborn/Portpool Lane. Perhaps the accommodation was cheaper? I’ll read through more of your blog.

    Thanks again.
    Debbie Fenn

    • Hi Debbie. I’m glad you found the blog interesting and useful. Good luck with your research!
      Best wishes
      Martin

      • Debbie Fenn said:

        Thanks very much. I’m doing all I can to make sure the people I find are indeed the people I’m looking for, but I guess that must be the big issue for all family researchers – ie. being as sure as you possibly can that you’ve got the right ‘John Fenn’ or whoever.

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